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Screen Actors' Guild Boycotting THE HOBBIT

by Todd Brown, September 25, 2010 7:15 PM


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Things just keep getting better for The Hobbit. Or not.

While it had seemed that the picture was getting back on track with Peter Jackson taking over the director's role and MGM showing signs of sorting out their financial difficulties, the film has just been dealt a major blow. The Screen Actors Guild - along with several smaller unions - have issued a Do Not Work order for its members, meaning no member of SAG or any of the other participating unions will be able to work on the picture without facing repercussions from the union. Which means unless this is resolved you won't be seeing any familiar faces in the film.

The dispute revolves around the producers' refusal to sign on a union agreement for the film while offering actors deals that include residual levels well below the union norm. Yes, union squabbling is boring but this is potentially an enormous issue when it comes to casting the upcoming blockbuster.

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Good. After the colossal failure of The Lovely Bones, Peter needed to return to the goose that laid his golden egg, LOTR. He demanded they get rid of Del Toro, who already had everything ready to go for The Hobbit, including locations, designs, props, script, etc. so he could bring his bank account back up. Sad all the way around for everyone.

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Not true at all. Guillermo wasn't pushed out, he walked because they couldn't lock a start date (because of MGM's financial problems) and he wasn't willing to wait indefinitely with all the other projects he has in development. Jackson had nothing to do with Del Toro's departure.

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Saltoner, where did you get that info? It would be quite the story if it were true. Peter Jackson fought a battle to have Guillermo on board for a producer / director partnership, so what you say doesn't even make the slightest bit of sense.

Also, $93 mln worldwide theatrical gross on a $65 mln production budget is indeed a failure, but not a "colossal" failure. Not enough for Jackson to become financially desperate...

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All the dirty secrets Hollywood keeps hidden. I don't divulge my sources, but the source is very close to Guillermo. I don't think you move your family to another country for over a year if you're not completely committed to a project. And we need to stop blaming every misstep MGM makes on it's money problems and start looking at the complete ineptness of the executives there. I'm just saying.

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Be that as it may, Peter demanding "they" get rid off Guillermo still sounds daft. Who are "they"? MGM? If there was one party in this story who would choose Jackson over del Toro any day for this project it's them!

As for MGM mismanagement, I'm no insider but how do you mess up such a successful restart of the Bond franchise? Loved the first two Craig Bonds (admittedly the first more than the second) and have been eagerly awaiting a third for years now. If there is one title you'd expect MGM to be able to show to the banks and say "Hey guys, lets talk about getting this on the road quickly so we can all make plenty bucks again..." it would be a third "new" Bond.

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Sorry, didn't post the previous post this twice, internet error. Peter wanted back on LOTR and the execs are too upside down to respond in an intelligent way. Any way you cut it, De Toro is out and it wasn't by choice.

As for Bond, another prime example of execs fondling around in the dark for something they have no idea about and thus killing a hot franchise.

Film is an amazing medium, nothing else comes close, but it's these damn execs who get their jobs from knowing/blowing people and have no idea about real filmmaking. Ugh!

Saltoner, as a friend of over a dozen Weta employees in Wellington, I can tell you that you are full of sh*t.
Peter Jackson did NOT demand Del Toro be removed from the project, nor did anyone else.
No matter which way you cut it, it WAS his choice.

And Salton, pretty much everything you're saying has the ring of someone who has guessed it all, think it sounds about right, and you've decided that it wouldn't be a stretch to make even more non-logical deductions from your guesswork.
I wonder if just because the Bond films weren't to your taste, you deduce they were failures.
Guess what: they were hugely successful. As was Lovely Bones.
By pretending you know what's best for the film industry - and claim to even understand what it is that Peter Jackson needs to be doing, no less - you are only making a fool of yourself.
The film industry is not a soccer league!


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Del Toro making the decision still sounds way more plausible, especially given the circumstances. "At the Mountains of Madness" has been his dream project for years if not decades, and to be able to make that with James Cameron producing must almost have sounded too good to be true. And all that MGM had to offer on "The Hobbit" was a "maybe we'll be able to start soon"...

As for Bond:
To be honest, I think Saltoner does not consider the new Bond films to be ANY kind of failure, but (like me) thinks MGM didn't handle the follow-up to that success well. It's just odd that a third one wasn't greenlighted with the greatest possible speed, especially if you do face financial difficulties. You'd want the Bond farnchise momentum and cashflow to continue uninterrupted.

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People working at WETA are not in the loop to what decisions are being made in an conference room in Los Angeles about any project they are working on. Just like a storyboard artist at Nickelodeon has no idea what the future or inside politics are being discussed about Spongebob. It's a stupid notion to think hired hands on a project know anything outside their immediate sphere of expertise. Also, WETA is Peter Jackson, of course they aren't going to bad mouth him. Would you bad mouth your boss? Also, also, I never dissed the Bond films, I enjoy each and every one of them, my comment was about the people that pull the trigger on these projects for good or bad. I can tell you're a fan of Jackson, so was I, but I can also tell you are not in the know like I am. I don't watch soccer either, too boring.

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There does come a point where you need to cite a source if you want people to take you seriously. You're pretty much there.

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Like journalists, I don't give up my sources. Sorry. Maybe later down the road. So you can either take my word, or dismiss it. C'est la vie.

How old are you?

I'd like to see PJ's "Hobbit" before I die. I can't say SAG is wrong even though they'll still get an exorbitant amount of loot (resid) because the film is almost guaranteed world wide success. Just more delaying bullshit.


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