It needs more swearing (sorry, couldn't resist) but otherwise the new trailer for Terminator Salvation comes as near to perfection as I've seen in a long, long time. Will McG live up to the James Cameron legacy? Hell, it may only be a trailer but at this point it's a far better trailer than either of the Cameron Terminator flicks had. This film started out feeling like a cash in. Now it just seems incredibly aptly titled. Check it below the break.
"For once I’d like a movie where the human spirit and white, loyal patriots DON’T save the day and rid society of the “foreign element”."
What an absurd thing to say, and this is coming from a non-white dude all the way from Malaysia.
Anyway, trailer looks really promising but I'm still wary of the McG factor.
On Metaphor for ZOMBIES -> See: Philadelphia
I just can't swallow it.
Aids is a debilitating disease which robs the dignity, vigour and will to live from a person over a long period of time.
Your hollywood vampire is usually either somebody easy on the eye, or the romanticism of his/her affliction is played out strongly.
There is nothing romantic about aids.
It just doesn't gel for me (doesn't mean I'm right though).
Nice trailer, but hyperbole much?! You're already saying this will be better than Cameron's two classic films based on a few minutes?! Please! Don't put the cart before the horse.
Hmmm. Nice trailer with more that excites me than the teaser which left me cold. Super wary of McG though, and still struggle with the no Arnold thing. Though T3 was an abomination so best it's moved on to new ground... also this will be a PG13/12A won't it? Which means the savagery that was in the DNA of the first two is lost which seems a shame. Too much CGI could wreck this as well... looks ok in the trailer, but Charlie's Angels...well, either way you spin it McG isn't James Cameron, neither was Mostow. And it'll take a huge amount to persuade me that this franchise doesn't start and end with Cameron.
"Why else would the majority of zombie films involve a group of people (usually from various classes and creeds) barricading themselves in a house or some form of state institution, in order to protect themselves from being infected? And why do zombies look similiar to victims of the aids virus?"
It's funny that, later on, you claim not to be a conspiracy theorist.
Zombies also resemble victims of the flesh eating bacteria.
They also resemble...*gasp*...ROTTING, DEAD HUMAN BEINGS!
Holy shit! I really think I'm onto something. Bear with me...rotting dead people who have risen from the grave look a lot like...rotting dead bodies. Christ! Whoa! I just blew my own fucking mind!
What would you have dead people who have risen from the cold grip of death look like? Chicken pox patients?
"And why do zombies look similiar to victims of the aids virus?"
Um, because Romero ripped the look off from AIDS...which wasn't even recognized in the US till more than a decade after his first movie?
And I find it hilarious that you started off with "For once I’d like a movie where the human spirit and white, loyal patriots DON’T save the day and rid society of the “foreign element", then, IN THE SAME THREAD, and without a HINT of irony you move on to zombie films, which are famous for NOT having all-white casts and for NOT having them "save the day"!
Zombies? Aids? The hell? Zombie stories have been around way before the decease was discovered. Dawn of the Dead was made in the 70s and "Night.." in the 60s, so, i don't see what's the point here.
@krln99: Read what I actually said. This trailer is far better than the trailers either of Cameron's films had.
@James: Rating is up for debate. McG is fighting for an R.
to answer the question in your header: nah, no way that's the best trailer of the year. it bored me.
the second trailer for Transformers 2 is better. that one actually makes me, a Bay- and Transformers 1-hater, want to see the movie.
i'd say bale has certainly found the right note between Serious Acting & blockbuster spectacle now.
Truthfully if they had slung me an arnie cameo in that trailer I would have been ten times happier.
"the second trailer for Transformers 2 is better. that one actually makes me, a Bay- and Transformers 1-hater, want to see the movie."
Complete opposite for me The Vis... Agree with the hate for the first Transformers film but felt anything I've seen for the second one has been more of the same silly nonsense and loudness that Bay has settled into. Salvation at least would appear to be making an attempt at some kind of soul. I'd put money down for this and hope for a freebie voucher for Fallen.
For what it is worth, I'm sold and am willing to actually check this film out.
As for the zombie/AIDS bruhaha, I have to imagine that it has more to do with the fact that terminally ill people tend to look very, very unhealthy. Like they are dying or something. While the undead look like they are the walking dead. The similarities are hardly baffling. Besides, as several posters already commented on, the first big wave of zombie genre pieces came out years before any of us xenophobic Americans had any idea what the AIDS virus was. Now, a case could be made for the "28 Days" zombies and ebola/rabies, but are they really zombies?
Whatever, I do think you have a point about we Americans barricading ourselves against the malevolent forces of the outside world. It's just not a very good one. First of all, one well-worn cliche of zombies films is the horror of seeing ones friends and neighbors joining the zombie hordes (mother trying hide/protect zombified child, gun wielding badass breaking down when faced with shooting a loved one in the head, etc.). The enemy is not foreign; the enemy is US! Also, I would argue that the whole reason why the protagonists in these films always lock themselves away somewhere is to convey that most frightening of American fears: impotence. Think of it like the opposite of Die-Hard. Instead of the unstoppable hero easily going against impossible odds and defeating the enemy, he/she/they are more or less hiding against a force that is outside their capacity to defeat (at least until the last ten minutes of the film). Impossible odds are not terrifying, but seeming to lose to them? Chilling.
Anyway, thank you GeekOfEvil for giving me something to think about, even if we do find ourselves disagreeing. However, I'm with you in wanting to see a real apocalyptic film where the hero does not and can not save the day. Oh, and don't be too rough on those conservative love-letters they gave us a decade of great (and delightfully homoerotic) action films in the '80's.
Well, if you Americans are gonna go on barricading yourselves from the world,
then at least allow the world ( especially the Middle East ) to barricade themselves from YOUR interference the next time. For a start, keep your damage to yourselves.
The end.
Ah, wait. I'm sorry. Were we talking about ' horror ' ?
...end bit reminds me of the GENGHIS TRON video for "things dont look so good"
"On Metaphor for ZOMBIES -> See: Philadelphia"
Forgot to give props for this hilarity.
It's a genius trailer with some lovely imagery (the Hunter/Killer attack on the bridge looks fantastic, as do the animatronic Terminators). As for Trailer of the Year, I feel Star Trek just pips it (Transformers 2? meh)I just hope that they've still held something back - some big set piece to knock us off our feet.
yea, found myself worried i'd contracted the "seen entire film in a trailer" syndrome. So hopefully the film can still surprise me. But wow what a trailer. Both of them have been hard to ignore to be fair. I have my reservations on MCG as do many, but as Swarez pointed out with Nolan writing I think that should give the light & dark forces a healthy balance. And with a NIN soundtrack a trailer can hardly fail! I remember seeing the 300 trailer which made me want to play NIN's The Fragile all over again, now this Salvation trailer just happens to feature a track off the same album i'm going to have to listen to it again! (fellow NIN fan Kurt? O_o)
Nice trailer, great job!
I've been known to spin the Reznor from time to time, yes.
I'll concede this is a slick, action-packed trailer and its premiere at WonderCon invited much enthusiastic roaring; but, McG's monopolization of the panel proved increasingly tiresome. He wouldn't allow Geoff Boucher to do his job as moderator, which was unfortunate, because Boucher is great at eliciting commentary fairly across the board. Audience members would ask actors on the panel questions that McG felt qualified to answer on their behalf. Boring. And the most he could offer about his own film was to say that it would "knock your fuckin' balls up your ass." Okay.
I am intrigued by the story's premise that the previous Terminator entries brought the future into the present and that Salvation situates us in the future at the onset of the revolution and the "becoming" of John Connor. Apparently, when McG approached Cameron to secure his blessing on the project, Cameron wouldn't give it because he would want such a film to be great and not mediocre and--of course--only time will tell which is achieved. He was able to secure the late great Stan Winston for continuity; but, my gut feeling is that this movie is going to be fundamentally and finally just plain loud.